1 00:00:04,340 --> 00:00:05,380 Start the clock. 2 00:00:37,420 --> 00:00:38,399 Thank you, people. 3 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,400 How are you? 4 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:42,420 Appreciate it. Thank you very much. 5 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:44,880 Thank you very much. 6 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,920 Oh, thank you. 7 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,260 Welcome to our show. 8 00:00:51,020 --> 00:00:52,020 Thank you. 9 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,440 I appreciate that. 10 00:00:53,660 --> 00:00:58,640 And what can I tell you? It's the dog days of summer. I'm kind of glad. 11 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,340 Finally a slow news week. I could use a little break. 12 00:01:02,430 --> 00:01:05,930 Like, the biggest story this week is the guy won the Powerball lottery for a 13 00:01:05,930 --> 00:01:07,250 billion dollars. Did you see that? 14 00:01:07,710 --> 00:01:11,850 In Quincy, Illinois, at a gas station, which is perfect because he plans to 15 00:01:11,850 --> 00:01:12,850 spend it on gas. 16 00:01:14,930 --> 00:01:21,310 And, well, you know, a billion sounds like a lot of money, but, 17 00:01:21,370 --> 00:01:25,010 you know, right away the IRS takes a quarter of it. 18 00:01:25,350 --> 00:01:28,290 And then depending on what state you live in, like if you live in this state, 19 00:01:28,390 --> 00:01:30,850 between federal and state, another half. 20 00:01:32,590 --> 00:01:34,490 But, you know, Tara, how can you live? 21 00:01:36,290 --> 00:01:40,010 This guy said he never realized how much he hated socialism. 22 00:01:43,690 --> 00:01:50,630 But speaking of that, good news for the Democrats. The 23 00:01:50,630 --> 00:01:53,630 crazy lady in Wisconsin who hates Thanksgiving lost. 24 00:01:54,790 --> 00:01:55,850 By a whisper. 25 00:01:56,990 --> 00:02:00,010 Remember Francesca Hong out there? Yeah, I see her. 26 00:02:00,620 --> 00:02:04,260 He was ahead by 20 points, but then we found out about Thanksgiving. He doesn't 27 00:02:04,260 --> 00:02:08,300 like Thanksgiving. He also hates Halloween, Christmas, 28 00:02:09,259 --> 00:02:13,140 Valentine's Day, the Fourth of July. It's actually a good thing she lost for 29 00:02:13,140 --> 00:02:15,540 everybody, considering how much she enjoys celebrating. 30 00:02:22,060 --> 00:02:26,660 She took it well. She said she just wants to spend more time with her 31 00:02:26,660 --> 00:02:27,740 husband, the Grinch. 32 00:02:30,250 --> 00:02:31,029 Silly story. 33 00:02:31,030 --> 00:02:32,030 But you know what? 34 00:02:32,230 --> 00:02:33,230 No. 35 00:02:34,650 --> 00:02:38,210 Another progressive woman is in the news. AOC. 36 00:02:38,470 --> 00:02:41,930 Big announcement this week. You saw, yes, we love it already. 37 00:02:42,150 --> 00:02:42,989 Look at this. 38 00:02:42,990 --> 00:02:46,550 I don't know why we love it or don't love it. I don't know. I don't know much 39 00:02:46,550 --> 00:02:48,950 about it. But what it is is she's free. She announced. 40 00:02:49,210 --> 00:02:53,090 She's, wow. I remember when she was like in the 20s, a new one, and now she's 36. 41 00:02:53,210 --> 00:02:54,430 She's freezing her eggs. 42 00:02:55,709 --> 00:02:59,970 Something career women do. I get it. You got shit to do. Put the kid on layaway. 43 00:03:00,870 --> 00:03:02,090 I get it. 44 00:03:07,330 --> 00:03:11,410 I mean, I'm all for it. But, you know, I must say, trying to teach kids these 45 00:03:11,410 --> 00:03:15,290 days about sex between the you might be in the wrong body and your brother's in 46 00:03:15,290 --> 00:03:16,290 the freezer. 47 00:03:21,750 --> 00:03:22,750 I tell you. 48 00:03:23,710 --> 00:03:27,370 Explaining the birds and the bees is a lot more complicated than just, hmm, 49 00:03:27,490 --> 00:03:28,490 kids. 50 00:03:31,790 --> 00:03:35,310 Now, I don't know if this has anything to do with her decision, but she was 51 00:03:35,310 --> 00:03:40,330 engaged for quite a while, and the reports are this week that that's over, 52 00:03:40,450 --> 00:03:44,570 that the fiancé, yeah, they called it quits, although she says she hopes they 53 00:03:44,570 --> 00:03:45,930 can still remain comrades. 54 00:03:49,530 --> 00:03:50,530 I kid. 55 00:03:51,830 --> 00:03:52,830 Oh. 56 00:03:54,730 --> 00:03:56,830 Speaking of the eat the rich people, Luigi. 57 00:03:58,270 --> 00:04:03,470 Luigi. We have Luigi Pantheon, Luigi Mangione, the guy who was getting the 58 00:04:03,470 --> 00:04:08,270 runaround from the health care system about his bad back, so he murdered a 59 00:04:08,270 --> 00:04:09,550 health care executive randomly. 60 00:04:09,790 --> 00:04:10,790 That guy. 61 00:04:11,170 --> 00:04:16,149 He pleaded guilty in court. He said, I shot Mr. 62 00:04:16,350 --> 00:04:20,570 Thompson, and I knew what I was doing, and the Mangione Nistas, that's what 63 00:04:20,570 --> 00:04:23,750 they call the groupies outside the courthouse, they took it hard. 64 00:04:24,280 --> 00:04:27,800 One of them said, I don't think this is a concession or admission of guilt. 65 00:04:33,380 --> 00:04:35,360 Mitch, he just said he did it, okay? 66 00:04:38,260 --> 00:04:45,200 On the bright side, you always 67 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,540 know where he is when you call. 68 00:04:54,350 --> 00:04:57,890 How about the exciting news of the week? The Trump escape. Did you see that? The 69 00:04:57,890 --> 00:05:01,270 secret... Oh, see, this hit a nerve. 70 00:05:01,590 --> 00:05:07,030 The Secret Service got a credible threat that Iran was about to assassinate the 71 00:05:07,030 --> 00:05:09,730 president. They had a plan in place as he was coming out of Turkey. 72 00:05:10,190 --> 00:05:14,050 So they did that thing with Trump that the Beatles used to do where they go in 73 00:05:14,050 --> 00:05:16,090 one car and come out the next car. 74 00:05:16,370 --> 00:05:20,670 Except they did it with planes. There were three planes involved. And they put 75 00:05:20,670 --> 00:05:21,810 him in the catering cart. 76 00:05:24,940 --> 00:05:27,920 And they pulled it all. He can pull this off, but he can't clean a pool. 77 00:05:32,380 --> 00:05:39,240 Now, the controversy with this is 78 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,440 that Trump put all his friends on the decoy plane. 79 00:05:46,460 --> 00:05:49,620 Well, not all. You know who he took with him? Pete Hegseth. 80 00:05:50,620 --> 00:05:54,380 I'm not making that up. That is a fact. He took Pete Hegseth in the catering 81 00:05:54,380 --> 00:05:56,880 cart. And Pete was the perfect roommate in the catering cart. 82 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:02,060 Trump was in with the snacks, and Pete was in with the complimentary beer and 83 00:06:02,060 --> 00:06:04,620 wine. It worked out perfectly. 84 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:08,600 But, yeah. 85 00:06:09,220 --> 00:06:14,220 Those Iranians, they ain't playing. Iran, they're a-filling themselves 86 00:06:14,220 --> 00:06:15,220 lately. 87 00:06:15,580 --> 00:06:19,240 You know, they said they, well, look, they've got the whip hand now. They said 88 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,560 they won't reopen the Strait of Hormuz without compensation, without lifting 89 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:28,140 the blockade, without ending sanctions, without releasing frozen assets, or the 90 00:06:28,140 --> 00:06:29,140 right to charge ships. 91 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,900 Or as Trump put it, they surrendered like dogs. 92 00:06:35,740 --> 00:06:38,060 Well, I tell you. 93 00:06:41,950 --> 00:06:45,570 military situation. I read this today. We have a carrier over there that's been 94 00:06:45,570 --> 00:06:49,110 there for nine months, finally getting a break. Thank God. The USS Abraham 95 00:06:49,110 --> 00:06:53,350 Lincoln, the conditions on board this ship, it sounds like a cruise ship. The 96 00:06:53,350 --> 00:06:54,350 toilets don't work. 97 00:06:55,610 --> 00:06:59,570 They ran out of hot water. The food, we're running out of food. A guy jumped 98 00:06:59,570 --> 00:07:00,570 overboard. 99 00:07:01,210 --> 00:07:04,250 And many others, they said, we're thinking about it. I don't know about 100 00:07:04,250 --> 00:07:07,170 destroying Iran's navy, but it looks like we're doing a hell of a job with 101 00:07:07,170 --> 00:07:08,170 ours. 102 00:07:16,270 --> 00:07:20,550 The situation in general, I'm thinking about the homeland too here, having used 103 00:07:20,550 --> 00:07:25,650 up so many of our munitions stockpiles is getting really desperate. The only 104 00:07:25,650 --> 00:07:28,010 thing that's left here that's explosive is diarrhea. 105 00:07:30,430 --> 00:07:35,070 I mean, last week, what? 106 00:07:37,030 --> 00:07:40,450 Last week we learned that there was a shortage of ballistic missiles. We have 107 00:07:40,450 --> 00:07:44,670 now, this week we found out, we used up already a quarter of our drone fleet. 108 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,420 The Army has a new slogan, war while supplies last. 109 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,420 Okay, you're great. We've got a great show. 110 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:57,120 We've got Governor Andrew Cuomo, former governor, and Christian Soltis Anderson. 111 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,700 First up, interesting guy. Glad he's on. He's the host of the Daily Stoic podcast 112 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:06,420 and the number one best-selling author of the Stoic Virtues series. Now, there 113 00:08:06,420 --> 00:08:07,420 was a box set. 114 00:08:07,580 --> 00:08:08,580 Ryan Holiday. 115 00:08:09,420 --> 00:08:10,420 Ryan? 116 00:08:12,140 --> 00:08:13,140 How are you, sir? Hi. 117 00:08:13,260 --> 00:08:15,020 How are you? Good to see you. 118 00:08:17,740 --> 00:08:18,740 Okay. 119 00:08:19,020 --> 00:08:24,420 Now, Ryan and I have been hearing a lot about you and your movement here. It's, 120 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:25,800 of course, not a new movement. 121 00:08:26,020 --> 00:08:30,520 Stoicism is very, very ancient. But it seems like this is the first time I've 122 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:35,100 ever recognized it to have a moment, can we say, right in the modern world. 123 00:08:35,179 --> 00:08:37,580 You're having a moment. I guess. Like Jimothy. 124 00:08:37,940 --> 00:08:40,039 Yes, like Jimothy. But more ancient. 125 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,590 Yes. What? Things have a moment. 126 00:08:43,690 --> 00:08:48,070 And you seem to have learned how to monetize this and sell it to the common 127 00:08:48,070 --> 00:08:52,830 man. It's like a lifestyle, would you say? I mean, the daily stoic. 128 00:08:53,410 --> 00:08:57,110 We don't have time. You do it on a daily basis. If you only had 10 minutes, 129 00:08:57,210 --> 00:08:58,730 because you do only have 10 minutes. 130 00:09:01,470 --> 00:09:04,310 What's your elevator pitch for stoicism? 131 00:09:04,750 --> 00:09:05,750 Yeah. 132 00:09:06,260 --> 00:09:09,980 It's certainly not what the word stoic means to people, right? Stoic means has 133 00:09:09,980 --> 00:09:12,360 no emotions, has no feeling, has no joy. 134 00:09:12,820 --> 00:09:16,580 Stoicism as a philosophy, which has endured for thousands of years, is there 135 00:09:16,580 --> 00:09:21,460 to help us through the adversity and the difficulties of life. Because life is 136 00:09:21,460 --> 00:09:24,180 difficult. Life is painful. Things do go wrong. 137 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,300 The stoics do this. They live through the time of Nero. They live through 138 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:30,280 plagues. They live through wars. They live through political unrest. 139 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,960 They live through the decline of an empire. Some of this might sound 140 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:33,960 familiar to you. 141 00:09:37,580 --> 00:09:42,460 But way less now. Let's not kid ourselves that those things that you 142 00:09:42,460 --> 00:09:48,420 described in the modern world are an infinitesimally small percentage of what 143 00:09:48,420 --> 00:09:53,700 they were back then. Plague, you know, the Black Plague wiped out like a third 144 00:09:53,700 --> 00:09:56,560 of Europe. The population didn't recover for 500 years. 145 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,960 Yes, yes. This is the greatest time to be alive in human history. Okay, thank 146 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:01,960 you. Glad we said that. 147 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,740 No, I mean, because we have to start from reality. Reality. 148 00:10:08,220 --> 00:10:13,300 But so much of the fundamental elements of the human experience haven't changed. 149 00:10:13,420 --> 00:10:17,220 People are annoying. People are obnoxious. There's traffic. There's 150 00:10:17,220 --> 00:10:18,220 travel delays. 151 00:10:18,420 --> 00:10:21,920 You get sick. You get tired. You get hungry. You have urges. You have 152 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:26,680 desires. All of the foibles of existence remain unchanged. 153 00:10:26,900 --> 00:10:28,600 And the Stoics were writing. 154 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:36,020 2,500 years ago about how we deal with these things, how we persist in doing 155 00:10:36,020 --> 00:10:39,120 the things we should do and resist doing the things we should stop doing. Who was 156 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,780 the first stoic, and why was he so pissed off? 157 00:10:46,910 --> 00:10:51,090 Stoicism, I think, fittingly, comes from a disaster. There's a man named Zeno. 158 00:10:51,190 --> 00:10:54,270 He's a merchant traveling through the Mediterranean. He suffers this 159 00:10:54,270 --> 00:10:58,830 shipwreck, and he washes up penniless in Athens. And in rebuilding his life, he 160 00:10:58,830 --> 00:11:03,130 comes to discover this philosophy on the stoa pochilae in ancient Athens. 161 00:11:03,390 --> 00:11:07,010 So stoicism comes from stoa. It just means porch. It's guys sitting around on 162 00:11:07,010 --> 00:11:11,650 a porch talking about life and how to deal with it. And for him, the core 163 00:11:11,650 --> 00:11:16,230 virtues of stoicism is basically saying that the key ingredients to a good life, 164 00:11:16,330 --> 00:11:22,990 are courage, self-mastery, justice or ethics, and wisdom. And that these are 165 00:11:22,990 --> 00:11:27,290 the virtues we have to cultivate if we want to thrive as human beings. 166 00:11:27,490 --> 00:11:32,530 So do I have it wrong that there's this idea that the external can't hurt us? 167 00:11:32,530 --> 00:11:34,290 It's just how we react to it. 168 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:37,900 Yeah, so you could define stoicism as we don't control what happens, we control 169 00:11:37,900 --> 00:11:41,580 how we respond to what happens. We control the story we tell ourselves 170 00:11:41,580 --> 00:11:46,800 about it, we control what we do in response to it, we control our emotions 171 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:47,800 in response to it. 172 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,220 It's about the part of it that you do control. That's what stoicism is. But 173 00:11:52,220 --> 00:11:56,420 some things we do control. Sure. And we should. Yeah. I mean, you know the AA 174 00:11:56,420 --> 00:12:00,560 prayer? Mm-hmm. The one the drunks say? The serenity prayer. 175 00:12:01,340 --> 00:12:02,340 Yeah. 176 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,140 I think it's originally started with St. Francis. 177 00:12:07,620 --> 00:12:13,660 Lord, grant me the power to change what I can. The wisdom to... The courage to 178 00:12:13,660 --> 00:12:16,540 change the things I can. No, the serenity to accept what I can't. And the 179 00:12:16,540 --> 00:12:17,600 wisdom to know the difference. 180 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:23,100 If I know that, what more are you adding? I'm just asking. 181 00:12:23,380 --> 00:12:26,920 It seems like the whole thing could be said in that sentence. Well, the 182 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,960 serenity prayer sounds like... 183 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:32,980 thousands of years old. It was written by Reinhold Niebuhr on a train in the 184 00:12:32,980 --> 00:12:37,300 1950s. It's a summary of Stoic wisdom. It is a summary. 185 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:42,500 Epictetus, a slave in the Roman Empire, says that the chief task in life is 186 00:12:42,500 --> 00:12:45,340 knowing what is in our control and what's not in our control. 187 00:12:45,560 --> 00:12:50,040 And the problem is most of the things people spend most of their time on. 188 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:53,900 are not in their control, and they neglect the things that are in their 189 00:12:53,900 --> 00:12:56,680 control. We spend all this time trying to fix other people, change other 190 00:12:56,680 --> 00:12:58,700 people, complaining about things. 191 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,480 We spend a lot of time regretting what's happened in the past, and a lot of time 192 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,020 worrying about what might happen in the future, and all the while we're 193 00:13:07,020 --> 00:13:10,480 neglecting the things that are up there. It sounds like more of an Eastern 194 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,460 philosophy, and of course Greece was... Not that far. 195 00:13:13,930 --> 00:13:17,990 Not that far. And when the Roman Empire divided, it went east. I mean, it was 196 00:13:17,990 --> 00:13:21,950 the eastern half, and it has many eastern ideas, which is more about 197 00:13:21,950 --> 00:13:26,550 fatalism. Western man is much more about thinking you control it. I feel like 198 00:13:26,550 --> 00:13:29,690 that's who I am. I feel like, yes, you're right, of course, I can't control 199 00:13:29,690 --> 00:13:34,570 all my fate. But I always think life is not just about what you get. That isn't 200 00:13:34,570 --> 00:13:37,390 really what makes you happy a lot. It's what you avoid. 201 00:13:41,210 --> 00:13:42,210 See? 202 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,280 Maybe I should have a podcast about this. 203 00:13:45,620 --> 00:13:48,820 No, but really, I mean, when you think about just the things you're getting 204 00:13:48,820 --> 00:13:51,960 involved in the criminal justice system, I mean, I know this from having just a 205 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,620 DUI once. It's a nightmare. 206 00:13:54,340 --> 00:13:59,560 You know, debt, feuds, getting people pissed off, making women angry. I could 207 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:00,560 go on. 208 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:08,080 Just taxes, you know, just what you avoid. And I feel like I, you know. 209 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,940 I never like go across the street. If there's any chance a car is anywhere 210 00:14:11,940 --> 00:14:15,400 near me because just the slightest thought I could get hit by the car, then 211 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,400 I would be having pain. 212 00:14:17,560 --> 00:14:21,620 Epictetus said one of the signs you're making progress as a philosopher is, you 213 00:14:21,620 --> 00:14:25,580 might not like this, he says, proof is that you're getting in fewer arguments. 214 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,120 That's great. 215 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,460 Because it doesn't matter what other people think. It matters what you think. 216 00:14:32,620 --> 00:14:36,380 And we spend a lot of time trying to change people's minds, trying to reason 217 00:14:36,380 --> 00:14:38,840 people out of positions they didn't reason themselves into. 218 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,200 And so I do think it's important, because there are a lot of overlap 219 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,080 between Eastern and Western philosophy. But I think the critical difference 220 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:50,520 between Stoicism and, say, Buddhism, and why Stoicism is having this moment, is 221 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,280 that the Stoics weren't retreating to a monastery. They didn't go on these long, 222 00:14:54,340 --> 00:14:58,000 silent retreats. They were in the arena, literally and figuratively. 223 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,280 emperor of Rome. There are Stoics who are playwrights and soldiers and 224 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:07,120 entrepreneurs and builders and doers. So we live in the West. We live in the 225 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:12,760 world that the Romans made. And so as a philosophy, I think you need, of course, 226 00:15:12,780 --> 00:15:16,940 serenity and peace and tranquility and all these things. But you also have to 227 00:15:16,940 --> 00:15:20,900 like. The system doesn't work if people aren't involved doing things and 228 00:15:20,900 --> 00:15:24,040 contributing and trying to fix and grow and change. 229 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,960 And so the Stoics were philosophers, but only part-time philosophers. 230 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:34,160 They were full-time citizens and professionals and leaders. They were 231 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,340 involved in public life. 232 00:15:36,730 --> 00:15:42,110 So what do you think now, here, why are you having so much success with this? 233 00:15:42,190 --> 00:15:46,170 Why do you think this is the moment where it caught on? To me, you know, it 234 00:15:46,170 --> 00:15:50,510 does kind of make sense that people who, especially the younger generations, who 235 00:15:50,510 --> 00:15:52,130 think they're in so much pain. Yeah. 236 00:15:54,380 --> 00:15:56,560 We both laughed at that. Yeah, totally. 237 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,220 But it fits. 238 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,640 Yes. Look, I think one of the reasons stoicism is working is because it has 239 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,020 been tried and tested over 25 centuries. 240 00:16:05,220 --> 00:16:11,140 It's a merciless process of the crucible of human experience testing these ideas 241 00:16:11,140 --> 00:16:12,140 and refining them. 242 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,880 But I think the reason it's having a moment particularly today is we are 243 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:21,560 seeing a collapse in the other institutions and ideologies that used to 244 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,940 shape and direct people. People aren't going to church as much. They see there 245 00:16:25,940 --> 00:16:29,000 is a dearth of great leaders and moral examples. 246 00:16:29,420 --> 00:16:32,560 And so we're looking backwards to people who... 247 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,820 who from a previous time seem to have figured it out, wrote something down, 248 00:16:36,900 --> 00:16:38,760 have something to share and teach us. 249 00:16:39,140 --> 00:16:43,140 And it would be wonderful if these ideas were taught in school, but they're not. 250 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,920 And so people wake up and they go, especially I think young men, they wake 251 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,540 up and they go, well, I know what I don't want to be, but who should I be? 252 00:16:50,580 --> 00:16:51,580 What should I do? 253 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:56,100 And they're desperate for advice. And that is a void that if we don't fill, 254 00:16:56,300 --> 00:16:57,620 Andrew Tate fills. 255 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,420 Come on, they can't be our only two choices. 256 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,060 There's got to be something else on the menu. 257 00:17:11,530 --> 00:17:15,810 What about overseas? Is this as big overseas? Are you big overseas, or is 258 00:17:15,810 --> 00:17:17,310 this more of an American phenomenon? 259 00:17:17,690 --> 00:17:18,429 No, no. 260 00:17:18,430 --> 00:17:19,630 It's all over the world. 261 00:17:19,890 --> 00:17:23,569 Obviously, in Greece and Rome, the Marxists and the Stoics are their 262 00:17:23,569 --> 00:17:27,589 heroes. But I think there are some cultures that are a little bit more 263 00:17:27,589 --> 00:17:29,290 naturally Stoic than the Americans. 264 00:17:29,550 --> 00:17:34,490 There's, I think, a natural Stoicism in the Brits, in the Australians. 265 00:17:35,090 --> 00:17:37,770 But it resonates all over the world. The books are in... 266 00:17:38,060 --> 00:17:41,200 40 languages. And you have a banned book library, don't you? I do. 267 00:17:41,420 --> 00:17:45,240 I think that's an awesome idea. Because they ban books on both sides. I 268 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,160 mentioned it at my Mark Twain speech, the Huckleberry Finn. 269 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,940 They don't want that in the schools, even though it's anti-racist. 270 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,720 1984 has been banned because, by the communists and by people who thought it 271 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:58,459 was communist. 272 00:17:58,460 --> 00:18:02,140 Right. Right? So when people talk about banned books, they tend to think that 273 00:18:02,140 --> 00:18:03,240 it's like, it's... 274 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,860 It's explicit or erotic or inappropriate. And most of the books 275 00:18:07,860 --> 00:18:12,600 that are on these lists most often are the books that you read in high school 276 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,520 and you didn't think there was anything wrong with. And people are trying to 277 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,360 pull the ladder up behind them, I guess, and say no more generations can read 278 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:22,660 these classics. All right. Well, I hope that bookstore expands. Thank you very 279 00:18:22,660 --> 00:18:23,659 much for being here. 280 00:18:23,660 --> 00:18:24,660 Fascinating stuff. 281 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,120 Appreciate you explaining it to us. All right. Ryan Holiday. 282 00:18:28,380 --> 00:18:29,380 Let's meet our time. 283 00:18:32,740 --> 00:18:33,740 Hey. 284 00:18:35,660 --> 00:18:36,940 All right. There they are. 285 00:18:38,020 --> 00:18:42,960 He is the former Democratic governor of New York. My old job. Andrew Cuomo is 286 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:49,740 here. And she's a CNN contributor and a founding partner and pollster at 287 00:18:49,740 --> 00:18:53,080 Echelon Insights. Kristen Soltis Anderson, our recording champion. 288 00:18:57,620 --> 00:19:01,000 Okay, you know, I say this often on this show, I don't understand the American 289 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,980 economy, but I thought this would be a good week to talk about it because 290 00:19:03,980 --> 00:19:07,240 something shed a little light on it this week. Have you heard about Burrito Gate? 291 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,240 Has anyone heard about the burrito thing? This is a big thing. If you 292 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,760 haven't heard what happened, somebody from Turning Point, USA, is that Charlie 293 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:17,960 Kirk's old... Okay. 294 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:19,840 Okay. 295 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,080 It's not really that important to the thing, but... 296 00:19:24,430 --> 00:19:30,030 He tweeted out because the students had commented on their platform, a burrito 297 00:19:30,030 --> 00:19:31,390 shouldn't cost $20. 298 00:19:32,490 --> 00:19:37,230 And this guy challenged that. And it turned out, we did some research on 299 00:19:37,230 --> 00:19:40,390 this, it shouldn't cost $20 because it doesn't. 300 00:19:41,910 --> 00:19:48,230 It costs $20 because this kid factored in somebody bringing it to him in an 301 00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:49,230 Uber. 302 00:19:50,070 --> 00:19:51,070 Yeah. 303 00:19:52,650 --> 00:19:54,330 So this is what I don't understand about the economy. 304 00:19:54,870 --> 00:20:00,230 Yes, people are struggling, but their expectations are too high. Is that too 305 00:20:00,230 --> 00:20:02,830 much of a generalization about the economy? 306 00:20:03,210 --> 00:20:09,150 Well, I think this burrito gate has really exploded on the Republican side. 307 00:20:09,470 --> 00:20:15,250 And Kirsten knows about that more. But sometimes a burrito is just a burrito. 308 00:20:15,330 --> 00:20:16,370 Not this time. 309 00:20:17,430 --> 00:20:20,430 This is a fundamental... 310 00:20:20,890 --> 00:20:22,770 a problem for the Republicans. 311 00:20:23,030 --> 00:20:26,350 They know they have a problem with young people. They know that the young people 312 00:20:26,350 --> 00:20:28,850 believe they have a real affordability problem. 313 00:20:29,290 --> 00:20:35,650 And the debate is, well, are these young people just too entitled? They're taking 314 00:20:35,650 --> 00:20:40,350 Ubers, they're buying $7 coffees, and they're doing it to themselves, which is 315 00:20:40,350 --> 00:20:42,310 sort of one side of the burrito gate argument. 316 00:20:42,850 --> 00:20:47,130 The other side is, no, there is a real affordability crisis. 317 00:20:48,940 --> 00:20:52,500 the Republicans better step up and address it. And I think that's going to 318 00:20:52,500 --> 00:20:56,280 be fascinating to watch, Bill, because it's going to be an internal debate for 319 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,900 the Republican Party. Are they the traditional conservative Ronald Reagan, 320 00:21:01,060 --> 00:21:04,660 the private market is God, and whatever it does is right? 321 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,140 or are you going to see more like a J.D. Vance come in with an affirmative 322 00:21:09,140 --> 00:21:14,800 government should do something about the economy, housing subsidies, et cetera? I 323 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:19,060 think that's what this is really getting at. Okay, but just to be clear about the 324 00:21:19,060 --> 00:21:21,280 numbers here, you can get one for $2. 325 00:21:23,020 --> 00:21:28,220 And you could buy it in the supermarket. And somebody said they feed a family of 326 00:21:28,220 --> 00:21:31,880 eight on $20 by buying ingredients. 327 00:21:32,620 --> 00:21:33,620 Like we used to do. 328 00:21:33,940 --> 00:21:37,540 Make your own burrito. That's what I'm saying. One of the things that makes 329 00:21:37,540 --> 00:21:41,580 people upset, though, is it's not even necessarily just the raw price of what 330 00:21:41,580 --> 00:21:46,480 you're paying, but it's how you feel you used to be able to live relative to now. 331 00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:51,520 And I think inherent to people's idea of the American dream, which lots of people 332 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,420 define many different ways, is the idea that you can always get ahead, that you 333 00:21:55,420 --> 00:21:58,680 can always advance, that you can always improve your quality of life. And if 334 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,760 you, rightly or wrongly, think things used to be better. 335 00:22:02,110 --> 00:22:06,990 And now, when I'm growing up, I'm getting screwed. I understand why folks 336 00:22:06,990 --> 00:22:11,090 in Gen Z feel like they say they don't believe that the American dream is real. 337 00:22:11,150 --> 00:22:15,670 They say they don't believe the system works. I think it is true that there has 338 00:22:15,670 --> 00:22:19,470 probably never been a better time or place to be alive than the United States 339 00:22:19,470 --> 00:22:20,750 of America in 2026. 340 00:22:21,410 --> 00:22:24,590 Regardless of, I understand there's plenty of things wrong, but... 341 00:22:25,070 --> 00:22:28,350 But I also get for somebody who's Gen Z when they look at maybe their parents' 342 00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:31,030 generation and they go, you know, I feel like they were able to buy a house when 343 00:22:31,030 --> 00:22:31,929 they were 24. 344 00:22:31,930 --> 00:22:33,710 It doesn't feel like I'm able to buy a house. 345 00:22:34,170 --> 00:22:38,230 You can see why for many of them they go, you know, they came of age in the 346 00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:39,230 COVID era. 347 00:22:39,390 --> 00:22:41,550 They've seen a lot. But that's not what the stats say. 348 00:22:41,890 --> 00:22:44,990 You guys are talking about feelings. I'm just going to stick to the numbers. 349 00:22:46,930 --> 00:22:47,930 Here are the numbers. 350 00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:49,390 Can I? 351 00:22:49,810 --> 00:22:50,810 Okay. 352 00:22:52,990 --> 00:22:54,390 From the Fed. Okay. 353 00:22:55,150 --> 00:22:58,530 Two-thirds of Americans consider groceries to be unaffordable. 354 00:22:58,990 --> 00:23:03,750 Maybe they are. But wages rose in the last decade, including the pandemic, 355 00:23:03,950 --> 00:23:10,550 46%. Food prices rose 34%. So wages outpaced them by the numbers. 356 00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:16,610 What we spend on food. At the beginning of the last century, it was 42% of the 357 00:23:16,610 --> 00:23:21,030 budget. And then you go through the years, you know, 1965, it was down to 358 00:23:21,030 --> 00:23:23,850 15%. Now it's under 10%. 359 00:23:24,250 --> 00:23:25,890 including eating out more. 360 00:23:26,770 --> 00:23:32,330 Also, Gen Z, I never realized this until people started writing about it, as they 361 00:23:32,330 --> 00:23:36,970 reach their late 20s now, they're getting much richer than Gen X was. 362 00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:42,770 Millennials in Gen Z at age 30, their net worth is around $118,000. 363 00:23:43,230 --> 00:23:46,570 Gen X's was $53,000, like half of that. 364 00:23:46,910 --> 00:23:48,670 But Gen X never complains. 365 00:23:49,090 --> 00:23:53,850 You've got to love those Gen Xers. They are the quietest fucking church mice. It 366 00:23:53,850 --> 00:24:00,670 is also true that Gen Zers are living... It is also true that Gen Zers are, like, 367 00:24:00,730 --> 00:24:05,690 I would argue, alarmingly high levels of people in Gen Z who are living with 368 00:24:05,690 --> 00:24:08,350 their parents well into their 20s. 369 00:24:08,850 --> 00:24:13,490 Absolutely. That's another big issue. This is another stat I saw this week 370 00:24:13,490 --> 00:24:16,170 that blew my mind. The great wealth transfer. 371 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,780 I've been reading about this. That's, I guess, our generation, or that's the 372 00:24:19,780 --> 00:24:25,580 boomers, are set to transfer $104 trillion. Now, this is the high end. We 373 00:24:25,580 --> 00:24:31,560 don't know. This is over 20 years. But up to $124 trillion, trillion dollars, 374 00:24:31,620 --> 00:24:34,600 down through the younger generations. 375 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,400 It's interesting. 376 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,400 A lot of the kids want it now. 377 00:24:38,780 --> 00:24:42,580 They don't wait. It's like, look, why wait till you die, Grandpa? 378 00:24:46,899 --> 00:24:48,880 I'm going to push back against this. 379 00:24:49,300 --> 00:24:52,900 Okay, well, first of all, you're right. Waiting for the baby boomers to die is 380 00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:54,060 not an economic strategy. 381 00:24:54,280 --> 00:25:01,260 But I totally disagree that Gen Z and millennials are just 382 00:25:01,260 --> 00:25:04,000 waiting for the baby boomers to hand things over to them. 383 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,680 I think for many of them, they feel like the deal that was available to the baby 384 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,640 boomers is not a deal that is available to them today. 385 00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:24,060 You can make the case on the numbers, but it is not what they feel, right? 386 00:25:24,220 --> 00:25:26,980 And that's part of what we're seeing on the Democratic side also. I think the 387 00:25:26,980 --> 00:25:29,640 Republicans are going to have a bigger problem because they start with a 388 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,180 problem with younger people. But look at what we're going through right now. We 389 00:25:33,180 --> 00:25:38,100 have these young people who believe they have been screwed by life. 390 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:44,020 Right. And they are acting out and they're upset about Trump's election and 391 00:25:44,020 --> 00:25:49,380 they're upset about Israel and they're upset about affordability and they are 392 00:25:49,380 --> 00:25:55,380 acting out. By the way, they're doing the exact opposite of what Ryan just 393 00:25:55,380 --> 00:26:01,840 talked about with stoicism. Right. You should be smart, be controlled, show 394 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,840 wisdom. 395 00:26:03,660 --> 00:26:08,520 They're just total rage and emotion and doing everything they can that is stupid 396 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,560 and counterproductive. 397 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,200 But that is the feeling. 398 00:26:12,540 --> 00:26:16,400 Well, I got to say, the first thing I thought of when I saw this stat about 399 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,940 transferring $124 trillion, I thought, I wonder how much of that is white money. 400 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,420 Because I bet it's most of it. And it turned out I was right. 401 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,040 Because of all the racial issues we face, the big one, I mean, so many of 402 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,580 the things these days, it's just performative. I mean, we've made a lot 403 00:26:35,580 --> 00:26:39,520 of progress. I know the far left hates to hear that. It's just true. The one 404 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:46,400 place that duck is money, which makes sense, because one race had a 300 405 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,180 -year head start on making it. 406 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,940 And that's what money gets transferred down through the generations. That's why 407 00:26:53,940 --> 00:26:55,900 the white people have 84%. 408 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,220 of total household wealth. 409 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,720 That's what it is. So I would just say to the young people who think of 410 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,180 themselves as progressives, you know, and you believe in allyship and 411 00:27:05,180 --> 00:27:09,520 reparations, and that's where the money is, kids. Well, look, I don't think that 412 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,180 leading for wealth to transfer is a good strategy. I think finding ways to help 413 00:27:14,180 --> 00:27:16,640 wealth get created is good. I agree. And honestly, this is a... 414 00:27:17,020 --> 00:27:19,860 Regardless of what you think about Donald Trump, this is a you-gotta-hand 415 00:27:19,860 --> 00:27:23,640 -it-to-him. These Trump accounts for young kids. The ability to have money 416 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,720 set aside for you when you are very young. So explain it first, because I 417 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,140 know the story. It's been called a couple different things, baby bonds. But 418 00:27:31,140 --> 00:27:35,300 essentially, if you are born in the United States... During Trump's 419 00:27:35,300 --> 00:27:39,780 presidency, you get, I believe it's $1,000 that can just go straight into an 420 00:27:39,780 --> 00:27:44,940 account. I think that Dell is also funding some of this. 421 00:27:45,660 --> 00:27:46,660 Essentially, 422 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,380 it just means that you have money that's going to set aside and can grow over the 423 00:27:50,380 --> 00:27:52,220 course of your lifetime. Compound interest is insane. 424 00:27:52,740 --> 00:27:57,440 This is an incredible way to help kids get the next generation. 425 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,420 Sorry for millennials and Gen Z, but for Gen Alpha and whoever comes after them, 426 00:28:01,540 --> 00:28:03,560 being able to have that money start early. 427 00:28:10,250 --> 00:28:15,110 They'll say they're paying one-tenth of the interest on their college debt, you 428 00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:19,070 know, which many of these kids really are struggling with, and that is a 429 00:28:19,070 --> 00:28:24,510 problem. I remember George Bush wanted to put the money that we, when you start 430 00:28:24,510 --> 00:28:29,590 paying into Social Security when you're 20 or 18 or whatever it is, into the 431 00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:30,589 stock market. 432 00:28:30,590 --> 00:28:33,610 And he went, wow, what a terrible idea. Not a terrible idea. 433 00:28:33,870 --> 00:28:36,350 You're not going to be able to touch it until you're 65 anyway. 434 00:28:36,610 --> 00:28:40,450 Look at the chart of where the money in the stock market is. It outpaces just 435 00:28:40,450 --> 00:28:44,110 putting in the bank by an exponential number. 436 00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:48,950 So why didn't we do that? Well, because politics, I guess. This seems like it's 437 00:28:48,950 --> 00:28:49,950 the same thing. 438 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,960 Well, this is, I think, a little different because people don't, I think 439 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,040 people are, I actually don't know what the investment rules are around it, but 440 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,160 the idea that you're starting so early just gives it, I mean, time is just such 441 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,800 an accelerant when it comes to being able to grow wealth and being able to 442 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,220 start so young. I'm hoping that that will help these younger generations, 443 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,300 especially kids who are not coming from white families or families where they're 444 00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:12,760 going to be able to inherit that wealth. I think it's going to be hugely helpful. 445 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,440 And Andrew, as someone who ran against Mandemi in New York for the mayorship, 446 00:29:16,740 --> 00:29:19,080 what do you think of his? 447 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:24,320 plan to help us with affordability. I mean, he's opening these city-run 448 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,580 stores, grocery stores, I don't think they have one yet, but that's the plan, 449 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,880 that will sell meat and bread and other items, I assume, for 30% below market 450 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,000 rate. His quote was, the mayor said, I look forward to the competition. 451 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,280 May the most affordable grocery store win. 452 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,700 Well, it's not competition. 453 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,640 If you're undercutting legitimate businessmen by 30%, I wonder who's going 454 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:47,599 to win. 455 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,820 But who's subsidizing that? Who's paying for that? I guess richer people, and 456 00:29:50,820 --> 00:29:54,160 that's the plan. But you think it's workable? It never has before. 457 00:29:54,460 --> 00:29:59,280 Of course not. It's emblematic of this entire approach, right? It's all 458 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,280 symbolic. 459 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,480 They take a really serious issue, and food insecurity is a serious issue. 460 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,660 And they offer this simplistic solution, bumper sticker solution, that's not 461 00:30:09,660 --> 00:30:10,840 going to make a damn bit of difference. 462 00:30:11,180 --> 00:30:16,440 His plan is first five grocery stores in New York City. 463 00:30:16,830 --> 00:30:19,270 for the entire city. 464 00:30:19,970 --> 00:30:25,010 Jesus Christ, five loaves of bread, two fish, could only feed 5,000. You're not 465 00:30:25,010 --> 00:30:28,290 going to do 8 million people with five grocery stores. 466 00:30:28,730 --> 00:30:32,570 The grocery stores are subsidized $100 million. 467 00:30:33,910 --> 00:30:39,670 That's how the 30% discount comes, because he's subsidizing them with tax 468 00:30:39,670 --> 00:30:43,990 dollars. All it's going to do is put the surrounding mom-and-pop stores out of 469 00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:45,650 business, and then 470 00:30:47,150 --> 00:30:48,870 Anyone can go to the Thor. 471 00:30:49,210 --> 00:30:50,270 So it's not... 472 00:30:51,290 --> 00:30:55,570 For poor people, lower-income people, it's anyone. You can go shop and get the 473 00:30:55,570 --> 00:30:57,730 30% discount. But I wouldn't, and neither would you. 474 00:30:57,970 --> 00:31:00,350 I know, but... The rich people aren't going to go to that store. Yeah, but 475 00:31:00,350 --> 00:31:01,450 they want to make the point of socialism. 476 00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:04,890 This is socialism providing the goods. Nothing will make someone hate socialism 477 00:31:04,890 --> 00:31:08,430 more than trying to go to a government-run grocery store. In 1989, 478 00:31:08,830 --> 00:31:11,790 Boris Yeltsin comes over to the U.S. This is when, like, the U.S. and the 479 00:31:11,790 --> 00:31:15,570 USSR were starting to become... It was thawing. He comes over to visit Texas. 480 00:31:15,670 --> 00:31:16,569 He goes to NASA. 481 00:31:16,570 --> 00:31:19,810 He sees our technology there. And then he goes to a Texas grocery store. 482 00:31:20,590 --> 00:31:21,770 Boris Yeltsin walked away. 483 00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:25,090 The Houston Chronicle said he was dazzled by the Jell-O pudding pop. 484 00:31:25,470 --> 00:31:26,470 Seriously, 485 00:31:26,770 --> 00:31:30,570 in the store. And he went back to the Soviet Union and was like, guys, we've 486 00:31:30,570 --> 00:31:33,850 got it all wrong. And that was it. That was the end of the Cold War. We just had 487 00:31:33,850 --> 00:31:35,970 all the soccer tourists do the same thing. 488 00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:41,090 They lost their shit in the grocery aisles of the American supermarket. 489 00:31:41,610 --> 00:31:42,469 It turns out this is a solved problem. 490 00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:45,150 And look, I get it. So the affordability of groceries. 491 00:31:45,580 --> 00:31:47,400 Right problem to tackle, wrong solution. 492 00:31:47,660 --> 00:31:51,440 We actually have solutions in that you have grocery stores like Aldi, like 493 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,740 Little, that are aimed at sort of getting discount food in people's hands. 494 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,700 Create the economic conditions where an Aldi or a Little wants to open up shop 495 00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:03,640 in your town rather than government deciding it's going to get into the 496 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,920 grocery store running business. 497 00:32:05,620 --> 00:32:06,620 Exactly. 498 00:32:11,310 --> 00:32:14,990 What we did on the safe side is exactly what you said. Number one, provide an 499 00:32:14,990 --> 00:32:18,890 incentive for private stores to go into these communities because they don't 500 00:32:18,890 --> 00:32:19,890 want too many of them. 501 00:32:20,130 --> 00:32:26,670 And number two, for low-income people who can't afford food, subsidize their 502 00:32:26,670 --> 00:32:32,550 food bill. And in New York, $40,000, $50,000, up to $60,000, depending on 503 00:32:32,550 --> 00:32:37,670 your family condition, you can get $1,000 credit per month for food. 504 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,520 That's a smart way to do it, you know. But this is not about smart. 505 00:32:42,740 --> 00:32:45,440 This is about performative, as you said. 506 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,740 Okay. Performative politics and performative government. That's not 507 00:32:48,740 --> 00:32:51,700 going to make a damn bit of difference. Speaking of money and who has it. 508 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,700 A story I wanted to cover. Now, this show, we take our responsibility very 509 00:32:57,700 --> 00:33:02,740 seriously here to alert the audience to important new trends that are coming up. 510 00:33:02,740 --> 00:33:05,620 And there is an important one. It was in the Wall Street Journal this week. The 511 00:33:05,620 --> 00:33:09,980 headline was, this summer's hottest accessory is a private equity boyfriend. 512 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,400 This is... 513 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,700 What? You're laughing. But for a successful woman like yourself, I'm sure 514 00:33:16,700 --> 00:33:20,740 you're taken. But for successful women, you've got to have a private equity 515 00:33:20,740 --> 00:33:24,720 boyfriend. Reese Witherspoon has one, Nicole Kidman, Olivia Rodrigo, Andy 516 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,940 Cohen. It's the biggest thing. So we were curious. 517 00:33:31,820 --> 00:33:34,960 We were curious. 518 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,720 What are the pickup lines that the private equity boyfriends are using? So 519 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,660 we Googled it. Would you like to hear some of that? 520 00:33:46,659 --> 00:33:48,420 Are you from the Midwest? 521 00:33:48,660 --> 00:33:50,340 Because I'd like to ruin your downtown. 522 00:33:56,220 --> 00:34:01,400 I guess I'll have to offer your ass a buyout because I see it just won't quit. 523 00:34:08,230 --> 00:34:11,790 I'm not into anal, but I have had the Securities and Exchange Commission up my 524 00:34:11,790 --> 00:34:12,790 ass. 525 00:34:18,949 --> 00:34:22,989 I don't know if you're running a Ponzi scheme, but you've already made off with 526 00:34:22,989 --> 00:34:23,989 my heart. 527 00:34:26,610 --> 00:34:29,090 Very proud of that one. 528 00:34:30,870 --> 00:34:32,750 I see us growing old together. 529 00:34:32,969 --> 00:34:36,389 Well, you growing old. I have access to Peter Thiel's blood guy. 530 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,719 You look like a younger Charlize Theron, which is good, because the real one put 531 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,120 out a restraining order on me. 532 00:34:54,739 --> 00:34:58,740 Your place or mine? Actually, yours, because mine has been doxxed by Mandani. 533 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,280 And come on my boat. I don't want to brag, but if it had any more coke on it, 534 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,700 Pete Hegseth would blow it up. 535 00:35:15,020 --> 00:35:17,260 So now you're apprised on that front. 536 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,200 Okay. 537 00:35:20,420 --> 00:35:24,320 So you're our favorite pollster here on this show. You've got all the polls. You 538 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,340 have all the facts. Nobody likes them anymore. 539 00:35:27,740 --> 00:35:34,580 Nobody ever liked them. But we need them. And we need sometimes to maybe 540 00:35:34,580 --> 00:35:39,260 get better stats because I don't know if people are answering the landline 541 00:35:39,260 --> 00:35:40,900 anymore or however they're getting their info. 542 00:35:43,150 --> 00:35:47,610 I have to ask this question because I keep reading these statistics about how 543 00:35:47,610 --> 00:35:50,530 much the American public has gone independent. 544 00:35:50,850 --> 00:35:53,710 Like 45% of people now say they're independent. 545 00:35:54,090 --> 00:35:56,290 This never happened when we were young. 546 00:35:56,510 --> 00:35:59,890 They were either Republican or Democrat. There was a few independents. The 547 00:35:59,890 --> 00:36:02,390 numbers that say they're dissatisfied with both parties. 548 00:36:02,950 --> 00:36:07,930 And yet, why never the third party? And then I read last week, Tucker Carlson, 549 00:36:08,010 --> 00:36:10,270 he's going to be the third party guy. 550 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,080 Now, look, Republicans, I love them, but you know what? 551 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,320 They always go lower. 552 00:36:16,980 --> 00:36:23,160 Like, just when you think you hit the bottom of the barrel, there's more under 553 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,160 the barrel. 554 00:36:25,220 --> 00:36:28,560 There's levels of... It's true. 555 00:36:31,210 --> 00:36:37,490 Find new levels of crazy. I mean, Tucker Carlson, he's the third party. Why do 556 00:36:37,490 --> 00:36:42,630 they say the American public that they want this sensible middle? But then when 557 00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:46,630 it comes time to actually do it, they run right to the extremes. 558 00:36:48,970 --> 00:36:53,790 All right. Where do we start? So there are an awful lot of Americans who feel 559 00:36:53,790 --> 00:36:54,810 very politically homeless. 560 00:36:55,340 --> 00:36:58,420 They look at the Republican Party, they look at the Democratic Party, and maybe 561 00:36:58,420 --> 00:37:01,440 they agree with a little of column A, a little of column B, but they're not in 562 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:06,060 on all of one or the other. The problem is all of those people who are 563 00:37:06,060 --> 00:37:09,740 politically homeless do not agree on a whole lot. 564 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,620 There are some who like Tucker Carlson. There are some who like Mike Bloomberg. 565 00:37:14,060 --> 00:37:18,040 Those people do not actually agree on much besides... 566 00:37:18,730 --> 00:37:20,350 I don't really like the two political parties. 567 00:37:20,590 --> 00:37:23,990 That's what makes it so hard for a third party to take off. There are structural 568 00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:27,670 things built into our system about single-member districts and what's, you 569 00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:28,930 know, the Constitution. It is rigged. 570 00:37:29,150 --> 00:37:30,330 By both. 571 00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:35,070 Neither party, like, wants to get the third party on the ballot, right? 572 00:37:35,370 --> 00:37:37,230 That's the truth. That is the truth. 573 00:37:37,570 --> 00:37:42,590 And, like, look, we've had, you had Ross Perot back in 92 get almost 20%, but 574 00:37:42,590 --> 00:37:47,250 it's hard to get more than that because it's hard to get a group of people who 575 00:37:47,250 --> 00:37:48,038 are independent. 576 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,580 but also agree on enough stuff altogether to come together to form like 577 00:37:52,580 --> 00:37:56,560 a coherent political movement that is so distinct from one of the two parties. 578 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,440 And that's why usually it's like a Ralph Nader on the left or a Tucker on 579 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,780 wherever he is. Isn't it more that we're all in bubbles and in our own media echo 580 00:38:04,780 --> 00:38:08,700 chambers, and so they got us cockfighting, and it's so easy at the 581 00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:12,380 end of the day to get people just to go, oh, fuck them on that thing, and go 582 00:38:12,380 --> 00:38:14,600 right back to the team, my team. 583 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,620 I mean, I find that my frustration in life is always trying to get people to a 584 00:38:18,620 --> 00:38:21,680 sensible middle. They just don't seem to want to do it at the end of the day. 585 00:38:21,740 --> 00:38:22,740 Yeah, 586 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,900 I think it's both things. First of all, there is a real structural problem. 587 00:38:26,410 --> 00:38:29,490 Democrats don't want it to happen, and the Republicans don't want it to happen 588 00:38:29,490 --> 00:38:31,410 because it would diminish both parties. 589 00:38:31,830 --> 00:38:33,410 So it doesn't happen. 590 00:38:34,430 --> 00:38:39,230 Many contests, most contests, you can't vote as an independent. 591 00:38:39,710 --> 00:38:45,070 If you could vote as an independent in party primaries, that would make a 592 00:38:45,070 --> 00:38:49,450 dramatic difference in this country because there would be a moderating 593 00:38:49,450 --> 00:38:52,290 influence. But neither party really wants to do it. 594 00:38:52,930 --> 00:38:54,630 And then push comes to shove. 595 00:38:55,210 --> 00:39:00,690 As Kirsten said, people will say, yes, I'm not happy with either party. 596 00:39:00,990 --> 00:39:05,390 But at the end of the day, they go Democratic or Republican because they 597 00:39:05,390 --> 00:39:09,490 don't think the independent candidacy is really viable. But Tucker Carlson, I 598 00:39:09,490 --> 00:39:13,950 mean, he used to do this show and my old show with the bow tie, normal sort of 599 00:39:13,950 --> 00:39:15,390 Republican conservative. 600 00:39:15,710 --> 00:39:18,130 And then he just went to crazy land. 601 00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:21,030 And made $100 million. 602 00:39:24,540 --> 00:39:25,680 Here's the irony. 603 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,660 If I was constructing the third-party candidate who would have the best chance 604 00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:34,600 of succeeding, it would be somebody who says, I'm anti-establishment, I'm 605 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,780 skeptical of us getting involved in foreign wars, I'm a little more socially 606 00:39:38,780 --> 00:39:43,040 conservative, I'm pretty law and order, but I'm more economically populist, I 607 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,900 think the capitalist system sucks. 608 00:39:45,610 --> 00:39:49,750 That kind of, that's like the pieces you could assemble to make a reasonably 609 00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:54,750 successful candidate. The problem is that Tucker Carlson's doing that plus a 610 00:39:54,750 --> 00:39:59,770 lot of other stuff that makes him not even remotely palatable to the vast, 611 00:39:59,890 --> 00:40:01,150 vast, vast majority of Americans. 612 00:40:01,450 --> 00:40:04,690 And when I look at my polls and I see, you know, right now Republicans kind of 613 00:40:04,690 --> 00:40:09,490 split on whether they like Tucker Carlson or not, many of the Republicans 614 00:40:09,490 --> 00:40:13,610 who like him, I think are unaware of some of pieces of this journey that he's 615 00:40:13,610 --> 00:40:17,570 gone on since bow-tied guy who would come on real time or dancing with the 616 00:40:17,570 --> 00:40:22,450 stars and the very dark places that he has gone now. It does speak to the 617 00:40:22,450 --> 00:40:23,710 vulnerability of Trump. 618 00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:28,370 I mean, the fact that they smell blood in the water, the fact that the poll 619 00:40:28,370 --> 00:40:33,030 numbers are down, they don't like the war, they don't like what they conceive 620 00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:38,530 as inflation, which is the tariffs, the things that made people's lives more 621 00:40:38,530 --> 00:40:39,530 difficult. 622 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:45,380 And so Tucker Carlson, I mean, he put out like a 10-point plan. That's what 623 00:40:45,380 --> 00:40:48,700 people who are going to run for office do. It was bullshit, but he put it out. 624 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,340 I think, yeah. 625 00:40:50,660 --> 00:40:52,860 Well, you have to have a 10-point plan for anything, right? 626 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,900 I think it's going to get worse after the midterms. I think they're sensing 627 00:40:59,900 --> 00:41:04,040 that the Republicans are going to have trouble in the midterms in November. 628 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,780 then you're going to really start to see the vulnerability of Trump. Because then 629 00:41:09,780 --> 00:41:13,280 they will all come. You must be happy that the crazy lady in Wisconsin lost, 630 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,740 as for the Democratic Party. 631 00:41:15,580 --> 00:41:21,300 It is so 632 00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:28,240 shocking to me how the Democratic Party has gotten itself into this situation. 633 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,140 where it is so counterproductive, right? 634 00:41:31,660 --> 00:41:36,400 We hate MAGA, we hate Trump. So we go out and nominate people who make it 635 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,840 harder to win in November, you know? 636 00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:44,260 None of it makes any sense. I get the anger. I get the frustration. 637 00:41:45,310 --> 00:41:49,830 But it is all counterproductive. They're mad at Trump. They're mad at Israel. 638 00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:51,230 They're mad at the establishment. 639 00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:53,030 They're mad at the Democratic Party. 640 00:41:53,410 --> 00:41:56,970 So they do emotionally the exact opposite, right? 641 00:41:57,830 --> 00:42:02,690 And it's just not going to work. They are electing people who are going to 642 00:42:02,690 --> 00:42:04,350 make it harder to win. 643 00:42:11,890 --> 00:42:16,090 There was a poll that came out this week that showed the Republican candidate up 644 00:42:16,090 --> 00:42:19,910 by, I believe, four points against Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan now. 645 00:42:20,410 --> 00:42:23,630 the polls in Michigan and the Democratic primary weren't particularly good, but 646 00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:27,490 that's a race that was not necessarily the one that Republicans initially 647 00:42:27,490 --> 00:42:30,790 thought was going to be their best chance, but are now looking at it as a 648 00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:34,450 real opportunity that even in a very bad, what is likely to be a very bad 649 00:42:34,450 --> 00:42:36,570 election year for Republicans, could be a pickup. 650 00:42:36,850 --> 00:42:41,450 But Democrats have also been saved by their own base a couple of times this 651 00:42:41,450 --> 00:42:45,810 year so far. And I have long believed that Democrats are on a slow path toward 652 00:42:45,810 --> 00:42:49,150 having their own Tea Party movement kind of situation. 653 00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:53,480 I do think that if Democrats take the House, you are going to have a situation 654 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,460 where a, let's say, Speaker Hakeem Jeffries has to figure out, how am I 655 00:42:57,460 --> 00:42:58,459 going to fund the government? 656 00:42:58,460 --> 00:43:01,880 How am I going to pass a funding bill that Donald Trump signs? And that's when 657 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,720 the real bloodbath begins within the Democratic Party. I couldn't agree more. 658 00:43:05,820 --> 00:43:10,200 Look, you have these moderates who are just afraid. 659 00:43:11,230 --> 00:43:15,610 of the extreme left they're just afraid they are and when they start with this 660 00:43:15,610 --> 00:43:21,930 well we're a big tent party no that is a lot of crap big tent party meant all 661 00:43:21,930 --> 00:43:28,470 races color creeds were open-minded but a tent is a finite uh ops object 662 00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:30,250 it didn't mean 663 00:43:31,260 --> 00:43:33,540 Nazi sympathizers, you're welcome. 664 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,120 Anti-Semites, you're welcome. 665 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,660 Abolish the police. Close prisons. Open borders. 666 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:40,960 Do away with the Constitution. 667 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,500 That's not the Democratic tent. 668 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:50,080 It's just not. But they are afraid, Bill, of the extremists. And they are 669 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,180 placating them. 670 00:43:51,580 --> 00:43:56,880 And that is going to make the Tea Party of the Democratic Party. And that will 671 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:02,500 make us a fringe party. We will defeat ourselves on this path. 672 00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:04,580 Okay, so lightning round. 673 00:44:06,140 --> 00:44:13,100 So, President Trump foiled the assassins again this 674 00:44:13,100 --> 00:44:16,760 week. He jumped on the plane that wasn't the plane. 675 00:44:17,500 --> 00:44:21,080 But he left everybody else on the other plane. If the Iranians were going to 676 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,200 shoot down that plane, goodbye Marco Rubio and a lot of other people. No, I'm 677 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,340 not judging him. 678 00:44:27,620 --> 00:44:32,080 I'm sure that's what the Secret Service told him. My question is, because I've 679 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,920 heard it is the president's discretion if he could do that or not. 680 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,740 Do you think any other president would have done it differently? Like, say, 681 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:39,760 Jimmy Carter. 682 00:44:39,940 --> 00:44:43,120 He was like Mr. Christian Guy. Would he have left his friends on that other 683 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,780 plane? What about Obama? What about Reagan? 684 00:44:47,820 --> 00:44:51,280 I feel like when you're Donald Trump, Donald Trump has had a number of 685 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,900 credible threats on his life traced back to the Iranian government. 686 00:44:55,120 --> 00:45:00,060 Yeah. He got his ear shot. I don't blame him. So I kind of think if you're Donald 687 00:45:00,060 --> 00:45:03,420 Trump, you do what the Secret Service tells you to do. Yeah, I would. I think 688 00:45:03,420 --> 00:45:04,158 they all would. 689 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,580 You think they all would? I think they would do what the Secret Service said to 690 00:45:07,580 --> 00:45:14,140 do. Yes, it's his decision, but you rarely go against what the Secret 691 00:45:14,140 --> 00:45:15,400 Service is advising. 692 00:45:15,780 --> 00:45:16,920 Right. All right. 693 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,320 Thank you, panel. Time for new rules. 694 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,460 All right, 695 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:30,339 new rule. 696 00:45:30,340 --> 00:45:34,380 Now that AOC has decided to share with the world that she's freezing her eggs, 697 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,020 Mitch McConnell's wife has to tell us if Mitch has passed away. 698 00:45:47,850 --> 00:45:52,510 I mean, no disrespect, but we do need to set a bipartisan baseline for too much 699 00:45:52,510 --> 00:45:53,510 information. 700 00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:57,250 I don't want to invade anybody's privacy. 701 00:45:57,530 --> 00:45:59,470 I just need to know what's in the freezer. 702 00:46:05,710 --> 00:46:10,670 Uh, overall, women hoping to put a little more lead in their man's pencil 703 00:46:10,670 --> 00:46:12,130 might want to consider... 704 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,740 Getting him the herbal supplement horny goat weed. It's known as nature's 705 00:46:17,740 --> 00:46:21,960 Viagra, and even if it doesn't work, ladies, remember, goats, they'll eat 706 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:22,960 anything. 707 00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:32,300 New Rule, 708 00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:36,940 the airport duty-free store has to come right out and say it. You think we 709 00:46:36,940 --> 00:46:37,940 smell. 710 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:44,120 What other explanation is there? Your store carries two things, cologne and 711 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,120 liquor. 712 00:46:46,580 --> 00:46:48,700 Who buys cologne at the airport? 713 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,920 Why not just come home wearing a sign that says, honey, I'm having an affair. 714 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,760 And if I'm going to spend $50 on a bottle of something at the airport, it's 715 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:03,760 going to be water. 716 00:47:11,530 --> 00:47:14,510 You're a South Korean company looking to do business in America. 717 00:47:14,750 --> 00:47:18,190 Run your brand name by an English speaker first. 718 00:47:18,410 --> 00:47:20,230 I'm talking to you, come-ho tires. 719 00:47:29,290 --> 00:47:35,870 No, I'm just trying to help because I see big problems. Like some 720 00:47:35,870 --> 00:47:40,490 guy... telling his girl, honey, we can't go out to dinner tonight. I just dropped 721 00:47:40,490 --> 00:47:42,410 500 bucks on a couple of come home. 722 00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:56,410 Now that Georgia's Jesse Davis is accused of trying to run over a woman in 723 00:47:56,410 --> 00:48:00,770 a parking lot just for saying good morning, someone has to ask him two 724 00:48:00,770 --> 00:48:04,290 questions. Why would you do that to a nice lady just out for a jog? 725 00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:07,120 Could you look any more like a Chucky dog? 726 00:48:17,420 --> 00:48:20,960 Dude, I don't know where all this pent-up animosity towards women is 727 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,400 coming from, but have you tried horny goat weed? 728 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:33,340 And finally, new rule, if you want the American dream, you have to take the 729 00:48:33,340 --> 00:48:34,340 American values. 730 00:48:35,020 --> 00:48:38,560 There's no bigger issue in electoral politics these days than immigration, 731 00:48:38,700 --> 00:48:42,560 and there's no doubt, at least in my mind, that both sides went to extremes. 732 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:47,660 Biden's policy of open doors, and then Trump's policy of broken windows. 733 00:48:49,860 --> 00:48:54,260 Now, I'm on the page of America doing what it used to do so well, stealing 734 00:48:54,260 --> 00:48:58,540 hard-working, talented immigrants from around the world and making them 735 00:48:58,540 --> 00:48:59,540 Americans. 736 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,640 Something has changed in the equation. 737 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:14,500 Now, most immigrants still want to assimilate. But some now have this other 738 00:49:14,500 --> 00:49:16,660 attitude of melting pot. 739 00:49:17,060 --> 00:49:18,600 Fuck you, you melt. 740 00:49:19,580 --> 00:49:23,840 Look, you don't have to love everything about America. We don't. That's why Yelp 741 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:24,840 was invented. 742 00:49:30,980 --> 00:49:34,780 But, you know, if you do get past ICE... 743 00:49:35,150 --> 00:49:39,190 America's actually pretty cool. We say you do you. Eat the food your grandma 744 00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:41,270 cooked. Speak another language at home. 745 00:49:41,490 --> 00:49:42,850 Celebrate religious holidays. 746 00:49:43,230 --> 00:49:47,370 We welcome your food, your art, your fashion, your first ladies. 747 00:49:55,090 --> 00:50:01,310 But you have to answer one question. Do you like Western civilization? 748 00:50:01,790 --> 00:50:03,590 Because that's what we are. 749 00:50:04,060 --> 00:50:05,500 And that's not negotiable. 750 00:50:05,780 --> 00:50:07,000 Let me ask our audience. 751 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:12,000 Do you think gay rights is one of our values that's non-negotiable? 752 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,740 Great, I'm going to hold you to it. 753 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,400 A few weeks ago, a liberal Democrat named Melissa Chaudhry running for 754 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,200 Congress in Seattle was asked why. 755 00:50:30,970 --> 00:50:36,310 Among the many progressive causes listed on her website, LGBT rights was 756 00:50:36,310 --> 00:50:37,550 conspicuously absent. 757 00:50:37,810 --> 00:50:42,510 Because, she said, a lot of Muslims do not feel that way, unfortunately. 758 00:50:43,490 --> 00:50:46,330 Now here's where liberal thinkers just tightened. 759 00:50:48,070 --> 00:50:52,570 Because they heard the word Muslim and have been brainwashed into thinking, oh, 760 00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:56,890 some Islamophobic bullshit is coming now. No, just fact. 761 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,960 And a little honesty to the people who see everything as oppressor versus 762 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,500 oppressed, but can't see who actually does a lot of oppressing. 763 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:11,020 So let me ask, is this the progressive policy now? Is Ms. Chaudhry right? We 764 00:51:11,020 --> 00:51:15,960 throw gay people under the bus anytime it clashes with what makes Muslims 765 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:16,960 uncomfortable? 766 00:51:19,470 --> 00:51:23,770 Last month, a gay cruise ship with 2,000 passengers that was sailing the 767 00:51:23,770 --> 00:51:27,490 Mediterranean had to turn around and change course because Muslim countries 768 00:51:27,490 --> 00:51:31,430 wouldn't let it dock. They tried to get into Turkey, and Turkey was like, no 769 00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:32,430 homo. 770 00:51:38,490 --> 00:51:44,550 They tried Egypt, nope, just straight denial. 771 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:56,880 This poor gay cruise ship couldn't find a home. It was like the grinder version 772 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:57,880 of the Odyssey. 773 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:10,780 But happy ending, they eventually sailed on to Greece, where the Greeks said, are 774 00:52:10,780 --> 00:52:12,420 you kidding? We invented that ship. 775 00:52:15,060 --> 00:52:22,000 But I got to say, you know, Egypt and Turkey, they have 776 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,300 no problem saying, our culture, we just don't do that here. 777 00:52:25,540 --> 00:52:27,300 We need a little of that attitude here. 778 00:52:27,580 --> 00:52:31,420 How about homophobia? We just don't do that here. 779 00:52:32,220 --> 00:52:32,920 We will 780 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:39,920 make you 781 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:40,920 bake a wedding cake. 782 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:48,200 But not everybody sees it this way. Linda Sarsour is a big progressive hero, 783 00:52:48,260 --> 00:52:53,140 and she says, Our number one priority is our community. It is not to assimilate. 784 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,360 Okay, but that's not really how immigration works. 785 00:52:56,580 --> 00:53:01,260 If I move to Japan, I don't get to say, okay, everybody, a couple of changes. 786 00:53:01,340 --> 00:53:03,700 First of all, shoes stay on in the house now. 787 00:53:10,700 --> 00:53:13,300 Also, no more tentacle porn. That's gone. 788 00:53:18,750 --> 00:53:23,210 Lots of people, not just Muslims, of course, do lots of fucked up shit. We 789 00:53:23,210 --> 00:53:27,270 don't have to go along with it. A number of cultures still practice marriage by 790 00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:32,890 capture, where if you fancy a gal, you simply abduct her and claim her as your 791 00:53:32,890 --> 00:53:36,190 fiancé. You may recall Borat tried it on Pamela Anderson. 792 00:53:48,020 --> 00:53:51,580 It's a real thing, and it's always a touching scene when the groom gets down 793 00:53:51,580 --> 00:53:55,340 on one knee to propose and the bride still has the bag over her head. 794 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,280 Okay, but we don't do that here. 795 00:54:01,180 --> 00:54:07,460 Linda Sarsour was forced into an arranged marriage at 17, but defends the 796 00:54:07,460 --> 00:54:13,160 practice, saying it made her, quote, become mature much earlier in life. I'll 797 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,160 bet. 798 00:54:17,260 --> 00:54:20,480 But here, we think that's a little too close to Epstein stuff. 799 00:54:22,260 --> 00:54:27,540 Honor killing, not letting women show their faces, polygamy, cousin fucking, 800 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:34,700 female genital mutilation. There's lots of stuff we don't do here, 801 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,700 and it's not negotiable, and it's not white values. 802 00:54:38,020 --> 00:54:42,880 These are liberal values. People fought and died to establish them, and it's not 803 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:43,880 racist to say. 804 00:54:44,270 --> 00:54:48,130 If you want to come here to help form a more perfect union, great. 805 00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:51,250 But some things are too fundamental to change. 806 00:54:51,550 --> 00:54:56,150 The separation of religion and faith, for example. And I would say the same 807 00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:57,830 thing to Christian nationalists. 808 00:54:58,650 --> 00:55:00,510 Democracy, not theocracy. 809 00:55:00,850 --> 00:55:02,930 Free speech, even about religion. 810 00:55:03,350 --> 00:55:05,270 Equal rights for women. LGBT. 811 00:55:05,570 --> 00:55:06,590 That's America. 812 00:55:06,830 --> 00:55:10,590 And none of it, none of this is available in Sharia law. 813 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:23,160 Which a third of British Muslims want to see be the law in England. 814 00:55:23,540 --> 00:55:27,600 And you can't have both. You can't have England and Sharia law. 815 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:32,020 And the left's reaction to Islamification is, the worst that could 816 00:55:32,020 --> 00:55:34,580 happen from it is it will get right-wingers elected. 817 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:40,440 Maybe, or maybe the worst that could come from it is in 20 years the UK is 818 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:41,940 turning away gay cruise ships. 819 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:53,380 Now, you can, and I'm sure some of you are, screaming Islamophobia, but that's 820 00:55:53,380 --> 00:55:56,820 just a bullshit word to cow people into not talking about this. 821 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:01,540 This has nothing to do with non-whites becoming the majority. I don't give a 822 00:56:01,540 --> 00:56:03,920 shit about that. I don't give a shit about colors. 823 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,180 White people, they're white. They're not pandas. 824 00:56:10,540 --> 00:56:14,480 I care about liberal values being replaced by illiberal ones. 825 00:56:14,900 --> 00:56:20,520 Last month, more than 70,000 Moroccan migrants breached the border and poured 826 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,540 into a part of Spain called Sueta. 827 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,200 I feel for them. 828 00:56:24,460 --> 00:56:27,760 But I also understand why a lot of Europe freaked out about it. 829 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,800 I sympathize with refugees. 830 00:56:30,140 --> 00:56:34,060 But when I see them interviewed, it's always, there's nothing here for me, the 831 00:56:34,060 --> 00:56:36,060 economy sucks, I don't see a future. 832 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:39,400 I sympathize, but what you need is not asylum. 833 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,140 What you need is LinkedIn. 834 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,600 Build something in the country you live in. You got a bad economy? 835 00:56:55,220 --> 00:56:57,460 You know that cruise ship that couldn't dock? 836 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,800 Do you have any idea how much money 2,000 drunk gay men would have spent in 837 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:03,800 the beach town? 838 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,220 All right, that's our show. 839 00:57:17,180 --> 00:57:19,440 Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. 840 00:57:20,140 --> 00:57:21,140 Thank you.